Catalytic converters are disappearing. If you’ve had yours stolen, you know that precious and rare earth metals are valuable. But these metals are in great demand for things other than converters, such as batteries for electric cars, wind farms and solar panels.

We need rare earth metals to combat climate change, but where to get them? Could we find substitutes?

One activity that could be in our future: Deep sea mining. But it’s controversial. Can one company’s plan to mitigate environmental harm help?

Guests:

  • Paul DauenhauerProfessor of chemical engineering and material science at the University of Minnesota and a 2020 MacArthur Fellow
  • Chris LeightonDistinguished University Teaching Professor, Editor, Physical Review Materials, Dept. of Chemical Engineering and Materials Science, University of Minnesota

  • Renee GroganCo-founder and Chief Sustainability Officer, Impossible Mining company

Descripción en español

Featuring music by Dewey Dellay

originally aired January 17, 2022

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